How to Get Younger While Getting “Older" | Suzanne Somers

[00:00:06] I've done over 1500 podcasts over, it's been, I guess, gosh, 10 years now. And what's great about podcasting is you get to just call up all these people you're either amazed by or maybe they did something currently that you really want to ask more questions about

[00:00:29] or they're your heroes from childhood or some icon of your personal history that and you just get this chance to call them and say, hey, can I talk to you and ask you any question I want?

[00:00:42] Like for instance, you know, a few weeks ago, David Rubenstein, the head of the Carlisle group came on and I was able to just ask every question I had about the economy and he was able to answer.

[00:00:55] As you know, I've been so fascinated by chess and even back in the 80s, Gary Kasparov was my hero and I was able, he's been on my podcast four or five times.

[00:01:06] Like what a gift it is to me and I hope it is a gift to the listeners to listen in while I ask these questions to my heroes. So a few years ago, I had on right before COVID actually, it was in my apartment we did this podcast

[00:01:24] and there was kind of a big crowd and we set up chairs and people were really listening. Suzanne Summers, first off, she was really famous as being an actress from a famous actress from my childhood on a show called Threes Company.

[00:01:38] Since then, she's been so involved in the health industry and the exercise industry. Tragically, you know, she passed away as I'm recording that she passed away yesterday and she had a long battle 23 years with breast cancer. She was 76 years old.

[00:01:58] And I remember thinking during the podcast, boy, this is a woman who lives life to the fullest. She's had her ups, she's had her downs, but she every day it felt like she squeezed the most out of life.

[00:02:13] Like, you know, she's in her 70s, her husband's in the 80s, she pointed him out and she was talking about how like they have sex twice a day or whatever.

[00:02:22] Like, I hope I am so fortunate at the age of 76 to be doing that and with all the again, all the ups and downs, particularly as you as you age.

[00:02:32] And anyway, it was a meaningful podcast to me, meaningful in the sense that I still four years later or three years later, remember it and apply the things I learned from that podcast in my life.

[00:02:45] I don't always do that, but in this case with Suzanne Summers, I did. And again, she was such an icon from my childhood. It was such a pleasure to talk to her. She and my wife got along. She stuck around afterwards and we were all just joking around.

[00:02:57] And it was a funny podcast as well. A lot of reaction from the audience, but it's evergreen meaning it's just as good now as the day we recorded it.

[00:03:07] And if you didn't listen to it before or even if you listen to it before, it's worth listening to again. Here it is. And again, rest in peace Suzanne Summers. This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host. This is the James Altiger show.

[00:03:38] Maybe they influence each other. He's very, very. I really like your hair. Oh, thank you. I really like yours. Thank you. I've liked yours since three's company. That's funny. Okay. That's all right.

[00:03:49] So I've got Suzanne Summers here from, I knew you were originally of course from three's company. And then since then you've done many more much more important things including 20. I didn't know you're the author of 27 books. Yeah. So you've written more books than me.

[00:04:06] So you're the first person that matters. And also older than you are going to catch up. But maybe I'll catch up or maybe not because your latest book, which we're going to talk about now is called a new way to age.

[00:04:17] The most cutting edge advances in anti-aging and people will probably say, well, why did Suzanne Summers wrote that? And I'll answer and then you can answer, which is written a ton of books on health and medicine and holistic medicine and so on.

[00:04:31] And in this book, you interview, I don't know how many doctors were like, was it 20 doctors or a dozen doctors? You've interviewed a whole bunch of doctors. Actually didn't count, but a lot. I didn't count either. I should have counted. Yeah. But they were all fascinating. Yeah.

[00:04:45] And you're really, you know, and by the way, also I have Dr. Dean Mitchell here. Listeners might remember him from the Dr. Gundry, Plant Paradox podcast, but Dean, welcome back. Thanks. I want to be your wingman today because it's a lot of fun being here with you.

[00:05:00] And of course, Suzanne Summers, we have a lot of admiration for. Well, yeah. Thank you so much. He was telling me, Suzanne, how much he liked your book, Toxic and Knock Out.

[00:05:09] And so many of your books have been so interesting and you're a real, you're interview style with the doctors. You're interviewing, you're really trying to, you're really getting the maximum amount of knowledge from them. And it was so fascinating.

[00:05:20] You talk about everything from, I don't know, oxytocin to telomeres to CBD to vitamin B. And, you know, and then one, I just want to quote one. It's you, your dog ear and everything. Yeah. No, this is, I learned a lot and I had a lot of questions.

[00:05:35] But the main thing is, I think the subtitle of your book should have been, and this is from Page, I believe it was 192. I don't have it written down, but I think this quote, I think your subtitle should have been infrared sauna makes for better erections.

[00:05:50] I think that should have been the subtitle of the book. And we'll maybe get to that. Maybe not. I will say. That's another book. Right. That's the next book. But there's a lot of stuff. You're all over here from stem cell therapy to testosterone, to supplements.

[00:06:05] So I almost don't know where to begin because there's so much knowledge. What do you do? What do you think is out of all the people you spoke to, what do you think is the most important ingredients for anti-aging?

[00:06:16] And by the way, Dr. Mitchell's here to help me just in case I'm an idiot, which I am. I don't know anything. So I'll ask the questions I'm curious about, and then he'll fill in some facts for me and for you and for the listeners. So roll back.

[00:06:30] What was the question? What do you do for anti-aging? You're obsessed with it. You do it.

[00:06:36] You ask these doctors because you're interested and aging is it seems like you think and I would agree that aging almost should be thought of as a disease rather than a natural thing that happens in our lives.

[00:06:50] And it's a disease that should be studied or a condition that should be studied and potentially cured. And so that's the focus of your interviews, it seems in a way it is curable. When you look at the present paradigm of aging, it's something none of us want.

[00:07:04] It's decrepit. It's frail. It's one of the big three Alzheimer's heart disease, cancer, and then the eventual endpoint at the nursing home. And nobody ever thinks that will happen to them. In a nursing home, ever thought they'd end up in a nursing home.

[00:07:22] What are any of us doing differently than those people? So you have to start thinking about it now and the earlier, the better to make better choices because the people in nursing homes today just thought they were doing everything right. They believe that processed food was okay.

[00:07:38] They believed the allopathic approach to health was okay. And I know that most people are most comfortable with allopathic medicine. Here's the... What do you mean by allopathic? The doctor hears my problem and the doctor says here's the drug for the problem.

[00:07:52] And that's what feels safe and that's what we all grew up on. And then we went to the doctor and they wrote a prescription and he almost didn't feel like you got your money's worth if you didn't walk out with a prescription.

[00:08:02] And so that I get, and I'm not trying to tell people not to go that way. But if you're like me and you'd rather go natural first and then only resort to Western medicine is absolutely necessary. Then this is the book for you.

[00:08:18] So the way I approach my health and the greatest thing that ever happened to me was getting cancer 20 years ago. It's an unusual thing to say that that's the greatest thing. It is an unusual thing, but... And it wasn't at the moment when you hear those three words.

[00:08:33] But I remember being presented with standard of care. And I remember saying, I can't. The idea of filling my body with chemical poisoning to cure me? I don't get it. And I said, will it cure me?

[00:08:53] Well, it won't cure you, but it might give you a better chance. Is that... I'd hate to sell that product. You know, here's 18 weeks of chemo. You'll lose your hair and you have a better chance of living, but not... it's not a cure. Yeah, like I'm always curious.

[00:09:07] And I actually asked this question of my friends, if you have cancer, would you do the chemo? Because it's not so clear what the chances of success are. In many cases, I've seen people die from the chemo. A lot of cases.

[00:09:23] Yeah, and it doesn't look very pleasant way to die either. It's torturous. Yeah, and so I don't know... I know what you did, so tell me your story. I turned it down several times.

[00:09:35] I've had a lot of cancer and I beat it every time doing it my way through diet, through detoxification, through pancreatic enzymes. I had cancer three times in my 20s. People don't know this actually. Yeah, I don't know that actually.

[00:09:51] A severe hyperplasia in my uterus three times in my 20s. In my 30s, I had malignant melanoma on my back. In my 40s, I had cancer in my uterus and had it removed. In my 50s, I had breast cancer, a tumor.

[00:10:06] In my 60s, I had ductal carcinoma in side two. So cancer just likes you? Yeah. Like it's all over. But I'm not afraid of it. I'm going to interrupt one thing. She's a warrior. I mean when you battle all these things, this is what I tell my patients.

[00:10:21] Sometimes when they're like, oh my God, this happened to me. I had this cancer, this is too. And they battled through it and they actually overcome it. I said to me, you're a warrior. You deserve that medal. Don't feel like you're defective in some ways.

[00:10:32] Well, I actually am, this is selfish to say, but I'm nervous that I haven't had anything because I think the one time I get something, I'm just going to completely collapse and that's it. That's going to be my final. But you have great hair.

[00:10:45] Yeah, well at least I have that. So in the grave, I'll have an open casket. God's very sneaky. He never gets you what you think is going to get you. It's always something else. I think in the... Good hair cancer. I mean this book too limited to cancer

[00:10:56] would be doing it a disservice, but we're in that arena. But I think the oncologists are doing their best. They're giving us their best, but that's what they're taught. And I am in a place in my life of, can we be more creative? Maybe it's not that complex.

[00:11:12] Maybe cancer wants to be fed right and detoxed. A guy that I interviewed for three of my books, you may know him, Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez. Yes. He was who I believe was murdered four years ago. He was just about to publish a 126 case studies

[00:11:36] of stage 4 cancer, including pancreatic, of his patients who had been alive on his protocol 10 years or longer. I used his protocol for my... for ductal carcinoma in situ. What is it? It's coffee enemas and pancreatic enzymes. Let's talk.

[00:11:54] I knew his work and I knew patients that we shared that swore by what he did. It was difficult, but people who had... I think chemotherapy is harder. Yes. What's a coffee enemas? Let's start with why pancreatic enzymes. The pancreatic enzymes that he gives you are for porcine.

[00:12:15] Pig enzymes are closest to human. So when you take enzymes with meals, it just digests your food. But you take it away from meals an hour before and after. Like in a supplement form? Yes, in supplements. And a good deal.

[00:12:29] If you have cancer, probably 14 to 16 every five hours. So it's a commitment. You've got to believe it. Can you buy those in the store or what's... Yes, you buy them from his pharmacy where he never took a piece. I said, he said,

[00:12:46] I don't want to make money off my patients. I said, it's okay. Anyway, enzymes eat debris. Cancer is debris. Chemicals are debris. Toxins are debris. So the enzymes go in there and eat up the debris. Hopefully it's eating your cancer.

[00:13:04] And then for lack of a more delicate way to describe it, those little... They're little animals, the enzymes. They poop out the debris into your bloodstream and then the coffee enema detoxes the liver and flushes it out. So you're eating it up and flushing it out

[00:13:25] and eating it up and flushing it out. How does it know... How does it recognize that the cancer cells are debris? Because this is part of the idea is that cancer cells fool a lot of other medicines, so that the medicines can't recognize the bad from the good.

[00:13:38] Perhaps they're smarter. But if there's no food that they're digesting, they just take what's available. They just want whatever is available. And so when I went to Dr. Gonzalez's funeral, and I talked to him three hours before he died, and he was fine.

[00:13:56] He's a god-loving man, country-loving man. Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, eats organic food. He had recently had a checkup. He's perfect healthy. He took perfect health. How did he die? His heart exploded. Yeah, they said you had a heart attack at the time.

[00:14:11] So when I was at the funeral, the wife said to me, the widow, that he had gotten a phone call two months earlier from an anonymous caller saying, you're going to be murdered. You won't know where it's coming from, and it's gonna look like a heart attack.

[00:14:25] And then she also said to me that Nick should talk to Mike Baker. So the widow said to me, do you know Mike Baker? And I said, I don't know him, but I know who he is. He used to be with the CIA,

[00:14:36] and now he runs a security system called Diligence Inc. So I called Mike Baker and I said, do you know Dr. Nick Gonzalez? No. Do you know you're mentioned in this anonymous call? No. I said, so you're with the CIA.

[00:14:49] Does the CIA have a way to induce a heart attack in somebody? And he paused and he goes, yeah, we have a heart attack done. If I walk down the street and I just bang into you, he said, you won't see it, you won't feel it,

[00:15:01] but five hours later your heart will explode. So obviously I want to get to the material on the boat, but I also want to hear why would the CIA be interested in this guy? Not the CIA, someone who got a hold of the technology that the CIA uses.

[00:15:15] Because what would the CIA care for? You can't have a little guy in New York coming up with a curative cancer, which is a $200 billion a year business. Connect the dots. So when I went to his funeral and it was upstate New York

[00:15:31] and one of those little churches that looked like George Washington went to church there, you know what they look like. It was packed with his patients. There wasn't one person there who looked ill, not one gone to face, not one, you know, the eyes sunk,

[00:15:44] not one gray complexion, not one cane, not one wheelchair. Everybody had vitality and juice. I always talk about energy and vitality as juice. And then the reception after were all the stories of 26 years ago. I was told to get my things in order

[00:16:00] and I've been doing Gonzalez all these years. He never said I have a cure, but all his patients that I interviewed from my book said they were cured. So let's say it was a different kind of cancer like lung cancer. Doesn't matter. So the same enzymes? Doesn't matter.

[00:16:15] Doesn't matter if it's a whole body, one organ, breast, prostate. Doesn't matter. How come someone like Steve Jobs, and I'm not being skeptical, I'm just curious because obviously now this is going to be the thing I do. You're the last person I speak to about it

[00:16:44] then that's the thing I do. So how come Steve Jobs or something like that, who did try holistic approaches, he ended up going back to the whole whippers, snapper thing. Didn't believe, maybe it wasn't the right approach. Belief is a huge thing. Belief is powerful.

[00:17:01] And all these people at Nick Gonzalez's funeral had a total belief in him. I have a total belief in him. So I'm more apt to be able to tackle cancer in me than someone who doesn't believe. I think belief is that powerful.

[00:17:15] So the book is not about cancer, but it's about other ways. Because I know most people are most comfortable going allopathic, like I said. Here's the problem doctor, here's the drug for the problem. I prefer first to try natural any way I can. And then if absolutely necessary,

[00:17:40] I go allopathic or Western. And I've been using, so when I had cancer that's, I just didn't want it, when I was presented with it, I have to say that took some courage because I had to watch Dan Rather on CBS say she risking her life.

[00:17:59] I was on the cover of People Magazine, is she risking her life? Larry King with Andrew Weil, is she risking her life? And I'm hearing from everybody, everybody's looking at me with that. What are you crazy? What are you doing?

[00:18:10] Is it any crazier to change the way you eat and take food seriously? Food is fuel. Imagine this is a Maserati, putting the most powerful food in this great machine that we have. So I ate only, and I do, eat only organic food. If you can pick it,

[00:18:33] pluck it, milk it or shoot it, you can eat it. And if it's organic, food, thoughts, sleep. I know it sounds too simple, but maybe that's what I said a little while ago. Maybe they're making it more complicated than it is.

[00:18:47] I mean, and we were just talking about this too, that we were talking about, I've had over 500 episodes of this podcast. Many of them have been with health practitioners. And the one, everybody could argue about every single diet, but the one or two things they agree on

[00:19:03] is low sugar, low processed food, good sleep and some exercise. But James, you know what I really, Suzanne's been a little bit too humble in this situation because I've been in practice 30 years. And I remember even as a young doctor 25 years ago, too,

[00:19:18] when she was coming out with her books and doing her things. And today a lot of these things are commonplace now and people, I mean, so many of my patients they're so interested in eating healthy. You know, the things that she brought out 25, 30 years ago were bold.

[00:19:29] And especially to come out from a non-medical professional, even more bold. And I think what she was sort of even tying into, and you're up against the pharmaceutical industry, they would much more prefer to have a drug where you have to pay $1,000 a month

[00:19:42] to get injected than to eat more natural foods or do certain things. So, you know, I think what she did and she's been a little bit humble about it, it was tremendous. And especially in the time when she did it.

[00:19:54] And now I think she deserves the credit of being, you know, like a senior, because we call her a senior holistic professional. I don't think she wants to be called senior. But we know she's senior in authority. In authority.

[00:20:07] It didn't help that I was playing the dumbest woman in America. That was the hard part, right? That's right. I was such a transition to make. Right. I mean, if you were a medical reporter, that's right. But you were a sex symbol, you were a TV star.

[00:20:19] But at the same time also, you used it appropriately because, you know, again, you got that attention and I think you did it all these years and I've read your work with a certain kind of reverence to realizing, you know, you have a big responsibility.

[00:20:33] You can't give people false hope and you can't do things that would undermine their relationship with their doctor, which is sometimes all these people have. Or the doctors that I interview. Yes. I take them very seriously. I think that's key is that you sort of balance,

[00:20:49] you know, your background with the fact that you're bringing in the authority of all these doctors who you've worked with and you're interviewing them, asking them great questions. So they're kind of downloading this information to you. Then you're writing about it in this book

[00:21:02] and you talk to so many amazing people. It's clear they're knowledgeable in every aspect. So now what do you do for aging? Like now you're keeping your health, you're keeping your juice. My juice. You're very energetic and you know, you talk about everything from,

[00:21:18] you know, DHEA supplements to telomere lengthening and all these things. Right. What do you do? Well, you know, this year I turned 73 and I thought, no, what's interesting about 73 is I always thought when I'm 73, I'd be old and chronologically I'm old. But I'm not old.

[00:21:36] You're sitting here with me. I'm not old. I'm not an old lady. And so what's the difference? I have embraced my age. I'm not all peeled up so that I have my acquired wisdom so I can perform my, I'm a matriarch

[00:21:52] and that sounds like some old fashioned thing, but wisdom is the one thing that no young person can buy or have. And what I'm, I just was interviewed by two young women. They're in their 30s. And I said, you're the hope because you're not stuck

[00:22:08] in a thought process because they were both going, I'd rather go natural. I go, so take that and don't go to the doctor like a child. Go to the doctor informed. You're the contractor and doctors are professionals that we hire to take care

[00:22:27] of different parts of our body, but you can't hire the right subcontractors. If you don't know your job and your job is the contract, you have to listen to the language of the body. Like when you're in hormonal decline, it's such a language.

[00:22:41] It took me three years to hear it because I nobody ever mentioned menopause to me and it was a secret. And when I was a kid, I used to say in whispered voices, my mother's going through the change I hear. Remember the change? There was so shameful

[00:22:57] that this natural thing that happened. It's very clear to me that we're here for one reason only and that's perpetuation of the species. And so everything's working great. Everything's great while we're completely reproductive. So around 40, 45, earlier now because of stress and toxicity, which blunts hormone production,

[00:23:18] the brain goes, whoa, this person's got lousy eggs. This person's got imbalanced hormones. This person can't make another baby. I got to get rid of this person. I'm giving my brain a personality. We're going to get rid of this person. Well, if you notice,

[00:23:36] we get our cancers at the end of our reproductive years. That's when I got mine because the brain wants me out of here and make room for the new young reproductive ones because it's a perpetuation of the species. So now we got this dilemma

[00:23:49] because we figured out how to extend life. We're living longer. We're going to live to 80, 90 and 100 now. I fully plan to live into my hundreds but with no quality of life. And so what I started writing about and I appreciate your compliments,

[00:24:06] I started writing about quality of life. If I'm going to be alive, I want to be alive while I'm alive. What's alive? I want to have a sex drive. I want to have nice shiny hair. I don't want to have unexplained weight gain.

[00:24:18] I don't want to have insomnia. I don't want to have night sweats. I don't want to have hot flashes. I don't want to be forgetful. And so how do I rectify all of that? Lab work, urine testing is the best, much better than saliva or blood testing

[00:24:35] to be accurate with determining your hormone levels. And to be clear, you list exactly what blood work, what urine testing and so on, what to check for and everything in the back of your book. Yeah. So you're not going to read this book and go,

[00:24:48] well I'd like it but I don't know where to get it. The book will tell you everything. The back of the book is as important as any other part of the book in this. And so you are able to test to determine your deficiencies

[00:25:00] and then when that number comes back, you have qualified doctor like Dr. Mitchell and other doctors that are in this book who understand you need some of this and you need some of that. We women drain out of progesterone as a general rule first. Who cares?

[00:25:17] Well, estrogen is carcinogenic. Progesterone is anti-carcinogenic. So nature devised us so that we make estrogen every day of the month. And then 15 days of the month we make progesterone. So just when our estrogen reaches a peak, which happens to coincide with the full moon by the way,

[00:25:34] on the 12th day of every month we women make the most estrogen we're going to make all month. What's interesting about that in paleo times, when there was no light, we could make love by the light of the moon. And guess what?

[00:25:47] On the 12th day, the light of the moon, we are a horniest and most fertile. And this is perpetuation of the species. And then the next day, the estrogen drops and the progesterone comes in and nature had it all figured out, okay, you're horny as hell today.

[00:26:00] We're going to make a baby if you did or didn't. That's good. But today the progesterone comes in and saves the days and now you're not going to get cancer. And we'll start this whole thing over again for next month. And that's how it worked.

[00:26:11] And so that's how I take my hormones. I take my hormones in a cycle, my estrogen first three days the lowest amount, the next three days, it rises in increments and by the 12th day I make the most estrogen because I'm rubbing it in

[00:26:26] that I make all month. And I'm very horny on the 12th day. Don't come around on the full moon. You can think of me every time there's a full moon. You say good morning America, right? That you have sex twice a day. So congratulations.

[00:26:40] So when you see a full moon, you can say Suzanne's really horny tonight. And then tomorrow the progesterone comes in. But isn't it nice to understand this that we cycle to the lunar calendar? But let me ask you this. You rub a progesterone in.

[00:27:02] Does that, this is what I, traditional doctors, because I've asked them about supplements and hormones and all this kind of stuff. They say everything from supplements just absolutely don't work because it'll never get in the bloodstream. Or they'll say things like, let's say testosterone replacement doesn't work

[00:27:22] because then your body will think it no longer needs to produce testosterone. So you'll quickly take a dive on your body producing. Your body producing testosterone naturally. Like what's the story as far as you know? Well, with all due respect, they're wrong.

[00:27:41] You know for instance, you men with your testosterone and this is backed up by Dr. Abraham Morgantaler in this book. He's on the faculty at Harvard. He's their chief urologist. He called me, now it's been about four years. He said I got something I think will interest you.

[00:28:08] I said what? He goes, I just completed a small but very significant study. Men came into my office. It didn't matter how high their PSA was it didn't matter if they had cancer or what stage cancer they had. He said in every single case

[00:28:26] when I gave them testosterone as the antidote their prostates returned to normal size and the PSA went down. And the way he described it to me and I'm not a doctor that your prostate, I love talking about, here's your prostate and it's like a woman's breast.

[00:28:42] You're like femsplaining to too many. It's just easier. Of course in my leg. Yeah, this is all about you guys. So here's your prostate and it's like a woman's breast and you have ducts in your prostate and in those ducts is where testosterone makes food for the sperm.

[00:28:58] So when you're young and you're making a full compliment of testosterone guess what? Your prostate's nice and tight and small but as you age and you start declining in testosterone production your prostate enlarges looking for its most essential building block which is testosterone

[00:29:16] but usually by the time it gets to here in today's medicine with doctors with all due respect who don't understand they rip that prostate out and now the guy is no longer the guy he was and now he's on an expensive Lupron shot

[00:29:30] which I think is three grand a shot where as Dr. Morgan Taller in this book is saying testosterone is the antidote he has a beautiful story about a 90 year old guy who came in and wanted testosterone for this and so wouldn't you rather try that first

[00:29:44] before you had your prostate ripped out and see if this worked and so my whole thing with natural But should you wait until things are at that level or should you start earlier? No, no, no understand that testosterone is your friend

[00:29:58] you know my husband is 10 years older than I am he doesn't absorb testosterone cream so we give him a shot every Tuesday he's got a little bit of not much just a little bit of fat right above his hip here

[00:30:13] and I hold it together and stick the shot in and what I like about well first of all don't call us on Wednesday but what I like about or the full moon, yeah right I got a lot of parameters but he works out with weights

[00:30:33] and because he's on testosterone he's buff he's like salt, he's 83 and it's like he's built he's my act I put him on Facebook Live I do two Facebook Live shows a week and I was selling our organic sea salt sugar scrub

[00:30:51] and so I laid him on the massage table in his camouflage underpants which looked really good on him and I was massaging his back to exfoliate but really what the women were noticing was that the guy was saying is wow he's in good shape

[00:31:07] and wow his skin looks so smooth and wow he's very muscular he's an 83 year old guy who doesn't take drugs unless absolutely necessary who juices up on testosterone exactly in his exact deficiencies according to lab work once a week he takes DHEA and just supplements

[00:31:27] and that works, it gets absorbed into the air he takes cortisol hydrocortisone in capsule form he takes thyroid, a grain and a half every day this is all from lab work well then HGH I interviewed Dr. Terry Hurtog in this book he's from Belgium

[00:31:44] he's an interesting endocrinologist over there and he's the reason that thyroid is legal in Europe because it was illegal, natural thyroid you could buy the drug thyroid but you couldn't buy the natural so he suggests in this book two things that I thought were very interested

[00:32:01] targeted peptide treatment like what part of your body do you want juice up in your body what's not working at optimum each section of your body has peptides that are specific to it even the brain and also sex there's a peptide shot for sex

[00:32:20] called PT as in peptide 141 that works on the brain the part of the brain that stimulates sexual signals I can't take it very much because I'm on full hormone replacement so when I take it maybe once a month it's almost too much for me

[00:32:40] but how about for a female who is having trouble having any sexual feelings at all how nice to be able to rev start that but back to Alan and his muscles testosterone feeds his brain feeds his muscles moves out his skin gives him vitality energy

[00:33:03] and the rest of the hormones he takes and for me I'm like I don't make any hormones at 73 I don't make any that's why 73 is usually old I take estrogen every day of the month progesterone 15 days a month thyroid every day of the month

[00:33:19] human growth hormone every day of the month cortisol replacement that I say DHEA DHEA do you take NAD plus boosters? yeah I wanted to talk about NAD I think N8, you were saying Dr. Richard Sinclair no it was David Sinclair David Sinclair at Harvard yeah

[00:33:40] who said that NAD is the closest thing we found to the fountain of youth immortality molecule he likes to call it it is I take it in capsule form every morning and every night but I have a friend right now on the verge of dying

[00:33:56] I won't say his name he's a famous rock and roller he's real cognitive decline and if he has a stroke it's over for him he's now doing heavy duty NAD 6 to 8 hours a day IV for the next month IV and I've heard about that he's the first one

[00:34:18] I've heard about doing this but I thought have I thought I'm that close to a stroke even though 6 hours a day of IV it's no different than people who go chemo for hours or binge watch Game of Thrones or Pablo Escobar I that one too

[00:34:35] yeah I've watched all of them and El Chapo we're in this is a new place that we're in and it's really exciting that we can take control of our body that we can replace what we've lost in the aging process including nutrients and minerals and we can determine

[00:34:55] if we're absorbing our minerals if you've had a lot of drugs in your life pharmaceutical drugs you're not absorbing minerals you know that so you have to take them as supplements yeah but you have to be able to absorb them I write about something called humic and fulvic

[00:35:09] but I like also too you mention a lot of your books and I think this educates the public too and I like to tell my patients this I like a lot of type of supplements too in liquid or sublingual form

[00:35:19] when you swallow things like sometimes I have patients that come in they'll see a doctor and they run 50 supplements and that's a little bit hard on the stomach and a lot of people they lose their stomach acid as they get older

[00:35:29] see that's the whole thing too what Suzanne is pointing out too we all it's part of aging our hormones go down our ability to digest supplements even our food goes down so there are ways that we can do to enhance that and Suzanne you mentioned so many different

[00:35:45] minerals and vitamins that are important so how do we know how to balance out which ones to take and how do we take them in liquid supplement IV and I guess with the blood test we sort of determine what we're deficient in

[00:35:59] but then how do you determine how to take them taking 50 supplements a day is gaggy I do because I'm on the far end and I but if I only took one supplement ask me one supplement I would take a probiotic

[00:36:15] every morning and every night for the rest of my life everybody's got something wrong with their gut everybody everybody you talk about the gut microbiome here and that's the recommendation if you've ever had an antibiotic anti-takes away you need probiotic and I was in the hospital 10 years ago

[00:36:35] and I was on IV antibiotics for 6 days 24 hours a day for an infection I did not have just because you're in the hospital doesn't mean you're getting the best advice my gut was never the same again I didn't know 10 years ago about probiotics why didn't the doctors know

[00:36:53] they don't it's in medical school you learn everything you know Dr. Mitchell is because you learned it outside of the box 100% because they're not teaching doctors these basic things anti-takes away pro puts back why don't they teach you about probiotics no no no no

[00:37:13] she makes a great point but again that's again to where she took a lot of heat over the years where it had to come from forces outside of conventional medicine to say take a look at this and something Suzanne said earlier too

[00:37:25] I think it's so important like in her books and when people read I like when a patient comes to me I've read all about this that doesn't intimidate me we're going to have a good discussion now and I'm going to try to guide you

[00:37:37] from my experience of treating maybe a thousand patients with probiotics we need to use a probiotic or rebalance your microbiome so I think it's important too this work that she's putting out there and hopefully the public and patients find practitioners who are going to work with them

[00:37:51] because I think also to do it alone yourself I mean you're very bright and you've had access to a lot of tremendous people that's why this book will give you the confidence to ask the right questions and you hit the whole spectrum of this book

[00:38:05] like I was just looking at some of my notes about stem cell therapy which but I also want to ask about you mentioned the vegan diet and I thought this was an interesting quote you've never heard of a single centenarian someone who lives over 100 years old

[00:38:21] who was vegan or vegetarian well three different scientists now have said to me vegans don't live as long and because meat has all the amino acids when you look at someone who looks really good and the tightness of their skin that's their amino acids Steve are you listening

[00:38:41] there's just a temporary phase he's going through you know we've villainized meat but our bodies were designed for it so it's just the quality of the meat, organic grass fed is the key thing there's one other thing that happens I know you're going to another question

[00:39:01] but I just wanted to say we lose hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes why do you care well if you're not making sufficient hydrochloric acid in your stomach you can't digest your food so you can be eating the highest quality food available and you can end up malnourished

[00:39:19] and then you're not making sufficient digestive enzymes to grind it all up I had radiation when I had cancer 20 years ago a decision I would not make today and I didn't want to make it then I got talked into it

[00:39:31] I didn't want to get talked into anything ever again because they immediately after you have radiation and then you have all these terrible reflux and terrible stomach issues and everything and then they give you nexium or previsit or something like that

[00:39:47] and then you feel terrible because you're on these drugs it turns out that radiation depletes your body's ability to make hydrochloric acid for life that's an important thing to say to someone I didn't even know that I know it goes down with people

[00:40:03] I see so many patients as you mentioned some of your books with Candida yeast overgrowth because they've been on prolonged courses of antibiotics or acid blocks every commercial you watch, nexium protex look how many commercials there are it shows you how prevalent this is

[00:40:19] and now it's over the counter so nobody even you can just do it on your own forever and hydrochloric acid is just something that diminishes with aging it's another one of the things that you've got to put back in so because I've had radiation every meal I eat

[00:40:33] I take six capsules of hydrochloric acid that's a lot but I make none so here's what look at what I do to remain vital and juicy and all the things that I want to be I completely replace all the hormones that I don't make anymore I completely replace

[00:40:55] the hydrochloric acid my stomach doesn't make I completely replace the digestive enzymes that my body doesn't make I take fish oil I take so many things and I'm looking at my cabinet what's the NAD booster you take? I Life Extension NAD booster I really enjoyed writing about that

[00:41:19] the other thing is Sennilitics which I had never heard of before and I wrote this book as we get older our cells fill with cellular debris that's why we, that age is us it makes us sluggish, it makes us slow down the cells aren't working, you're 40 trillion cells

[00:41:35] so your cells aren't working at optimum Sennilitic Activator which is about $8 a month and you take it once a week cleans out cellular cellular debris if you take Sennilitic Activator and I tell you where to get it in the book I did, an NAD which repairs DNA breaks

[00:41:55] here you have the thing that what we are which is cells starting to rejuvenate and heal and come back to optimal life and that's going to give you longer life quality of life and extended life wow so I have to say so people and L

[00:42:17] can you do this for me it's Steve's fault unless Alan is the same as Steve it's Steve's fault I was very electrocuted so Suzanne you're killing me because I got to catch a train and I want to talk to them for the next two hours

[00:42:33] let's do it again but yeah we have to do it again I see I think this is one really important for people to know that there's another way not that you have to do it this way but that they're only convinced there's one way

[00:42:49] the allopathic way that we've all been doing and we're over here going or this and you might look into it and you might feel better maybe you won't I do I like the way I'm aging I thought when I was 73 I'd be old I'm not old

[00:43:05] I'm not old you and I see Alan here very vibrant you guys are like 30 year olds and you have more energy than me I'm not trying to be young I don't care about that I want my insides to be young and that manifests on the outside and I

[00:43:25] love that I've got a whole other chapter and probably more after that and I want women and men to know it ain't over and again this book contains so much information not only from your own experiences but from these great interviews you do with innumerable innumerable doctors

[00:43:45] we can't be countless than doctors we haven't counted but you talk about everything from you know there's chapters about testosterone and the hormone system you talk about toxicity and how the environments are in are often toxic and how to what to do about that

[00:43:59] you talk about the gut you talk about NAD boosters and senolytics and telomeres and we didn't get to cannabis and other energy medicines but fortunately people could buy your book a new way to age and get all this and I'm going to hold you

[00:44:15] to it that at some point we're going to do a part two of this because I've got selfishly 50 or 60 more questions to ask so could we do another one I'd really like that do you promise it's up to you? okay I'm coming back in the spring

[00:44:29] or we can always do this by phone I'd like to yeah I'd like to do it in person so when you're back in a few months we'll do it thank you so much I've obviously been a fan for a long time thank you

[00:44:43] and now I'm a fan from this book as well I'm super inspired and I encourage people to read this we didn't get to everything we will get to it but let's at least pay attention to what you said here and read the book and thank you once again

[00:44:57] for coming on the podcast thank you and great here thank you you too thanks how nice not yet no go get out of here